1 00:00:13,830 --> 00:00:12,310 we live in a reality of phantoms and 2 00:00:16,710 --> 00:00:13,840 monsters 3 00:00:17,990 --> 00:00:16,720 they exist among us and sometimes they 4 00:00:21,269 --> 00:00:18,000 win 5 00:00:23,830 --> 00:00:21,279 even the devil was an angel once 6 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:23,840 the world has its own rules 7 00:00:29,669 --> 00:00:26,800 and these rules are not human 8 00:00:31,910 --> 00:00:29,679 some of us seek answers to the origin 9 00:00:33,990 --> 00:00:31,920 and existence of cryptids in the 10 00:00:37,270 --> 00:00:34,000 unexplained 11 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:37,280 join us as we venture beyond the known 12 00:00:41,830 --> 00:00:39,600 and accepted boundaries 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:41,840 welcome to our nightmare 14 00:00:59,430 --> 00:00:57,350 [Music] 15 00:01:01,110 --> 00:00:59,440 hey folks good evening and welcome to 16 00:01:03,349 --> 00:01:01,120 another episode of fans of monsters 17 00:01:05,189 --> 00:01:03,359 radio where we 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much needed 34 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:35,520 and appreciated so tonight we're going 35 00:01:39,910 --> 00:01:37,840 to do something a little bit different 36 00:01:42,870 --> 00:01:39,920 let alone this being a wednesday night 37 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:42,880 show uh since we're normally on fridays 38 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:44,880 and we just do the uh the personal 39 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:46,880 reports on wednesday 40 00:01:50,789 --> 00:01:49,920 uh tonight's guest is is kenneth hopkins 41 00:01:54,310 --> 00:01:50,799 and 42 00:01:57,749 --> 00:01:54,320 he states that for most of his life he 43 00:02:00,230 --> 00:01:57,759 had no awareness that he was an abductee 44 00:02:01,749 --> 00:02:00,240 the the night experiences i thought were 45 00:02:03,749 --> 00:02:01,759 dreams 46 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:03,759 and these i would visit many places to 47 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:05,759 see the same people many nights after i 48 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:07,360 fell asleep 49 00:02:11,830 --> 00:02:09,280 i thought they were dream people i could 50 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:11,840 smell touch them and have all six senses 51 00:02:15,350 --> 00:02:12,959 with them 52 00:02:17,830 --> 00:02:15,360 some places were cold some places too 53 00:02:20,229 --> 00:02:17,840 warm and other places i couldn't seem to 54 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:20,239 get enough oxygen in 55 00:02:24,949 --> 00:02:22,319 when things became strange was in 56 00:02:27,110 --> 00:02:24,959 december of 1976 while attending 57 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:27,120 northeastern university 58 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:29,200 i would get a top security job working 59 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:31,040 for a contracting agency for the 60 00:02:36,710 --> 00:02:33,200 department of defense 61 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:36,720 uh the dod and abduction would cr in an 62 00:02:41,350 --> 00:02:38,720 abduction would create a conflict that 63 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:41,360 would become lifelong in surveillance 64 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:44,800 the story was published in 2016 in a 65 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:48,239 book named earth transformations 66 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:50,480 a young female agent for department of 67 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:53,440 defense would be set up for abductions 68 00:02:57,750 --> 00:02:55,360 with me 69 00:02:59,750 --> 00:02:57,760 with uh much assistance from lance 70 00:03:01,509 --> 00:02:59,760 darkweather we were able to get this 71 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:01,519 book published unfortunately the book 72 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:04,080 has been taken out of circulation 73 00:03:09,430 --> 00:03:07,200 in the years 1975 through 1978 i would 74 00:03:11,030 --> 00:03:09,440 have done abductions by the graves in 75 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:11,040 the daytime while driving a car with 76 00:03:16,309 --> 00:03:13,840 numerous different young women 77 00:03:18,309 --> 00:03:16,319 these experiences i would have no memory 78 00:03:20,710 --> 00:03:18,319 of i called them blackouts i would later 79 00:03:22,630 --> 00:03:20,720 become aware of these 80 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:22,640 were referred to as missing time as they 81 00:03:26,949 --> 00:03:24,720 occurred i felt helpless 82 00:03:28,229 --> 00:03:26,959 some ranged from a half hour to most of 83 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:28,239 the day 84 00:03:32,309 --> 00:03:30,560 always there were women present in 30 85 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:32,319 minutes to an hour most of the women 86 00:03:36,390 --> 00:03:34,560 seemed unaware these incidents occurred 87 00:03:37,830 --> 00:03:36,400 in cars beaches and even amongst crowds 88 00:03:40,229 --> 00:03:37,840 of people 89 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:40,239 as the events occurred so did homicides 90 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:41,840 of witnesses 91 00:03:46,789 --> 00:03:44,400 i ran into the navy when men in suits 92 00:03:48,869 --> 00:03:46,799 started looking for me in the last in 93 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:48,879 the last two homicides two people just 94 00:03:52,390 --> 00:03:50,239 disappeared 95 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:52,400 surveillance was start while i was in 96 00:03:57,190 --> 00:03:54,959 the u.s navy and continues to this day 97 00:03:59,830 --> 00:03:57,200 in 2003 after telling a story of seeing 98 00:04:01,509 --> 00:03:59,840 a ufo to my son i will receive a series 99 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:01,519 of flashbacks 100 00:04:05,270 --> 00:04:03,360 they became traumatic 101 00:04:07,589 --> 00:04:05,280 i would begin my search with hypnosis 102 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:07,599 and massachusetts mufon 103 00:04:11,350 --> 00:04:09,040 the pieces would come together in 104 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:11,360 fragments of what occurred some 35 years 105 00:04:14,309 --> 00:04:12,480 ago 106 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:14,319 i would become horrified at different 107 00:04:18,349 --> 00:04:16,000 visitors coming into my room and 108 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:18,359 awakening me some goes some 109 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:20,000 inter-dimensionals 110 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:22,000 so kevin thanks for joining me this 111 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:32,390 give your microphone your microphone 112 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:53,270 okay 113 00:04:56,469 --> 00:04:54,400 there we are 114 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:56,479 can you hear me now yeah i can 115 00:05:01,909 --> 00:04:57,840 okay 116 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:04,150 so you know how did all this all this 117 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:12,150 i i get you just saying about the um 118 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:14,639 uh you know you started becoming aware 119 00:05:19,430 --> 00:05:16,880 of the abductions after a while i guess 120 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:19,440 through hypnosis but um 121 00:05:24,230 --> 00:05:22,560 can you can you tell us the process and 122 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:24,240 how you know some of the things you 123 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:25,440 started going through through these 124 00:05:28,950 --> 00:05:27,600 abductions 125 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:28,960 um 126 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:32,479 well i the uh i'll be glad to talk about 127 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:34,400 the abductions but i had a lot of 128 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:36,560 interest in discussing the mk ultra 129 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:38,479 project okay well go ahead i mean you're 130 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:39,600 open okay 131 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:40,639 uh 132 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:46,960 i while i was investigating the mk ultra 133 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:49,039 and interviewing people in canada and 134 00:05:52,629 --> 00:05:50,560 the us 135 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:52,639 interviewing some 50 to 100 people that 136 00:05:56,469 --> 00:05:55,039 had been involved in this program 137 00:05:58,870 --> 00:05:56,479 uh 138 00:06:00,550 --> 00:05:58,880 i didn't know i was involved in this 139 00:06:01,749 --> 00:06:00,560 program 140 00:06:02,469 --> 00:06:01,759 uh 141 00:06:04,629 --> 00:06:02,479 so 142 00:06:07,189 --> 00:06:04,639 i discovered 143 00:06:09,749 --> 00:06:07,199 i had probably undergone some over a 144 00:06:12,550 --> 00:06:09,759 hundred sessions of hypnosis 145 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:12,560 with three different hypnotists 146 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:15,840 so the the hip the the 16-hour missing 147 00:06:19,670 --> 00:06:18,400 time was the one everybody wanted to get 148 00:06:21,909 --> 00:06:19,680 at 149 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:21,919 and it took about two and a half years 150 00:06:26,629 --> 00:06:24,400 before we can catch that memory so i'd 151 00:06:28,710 --> 00:06:26,639 give up i'd come back i'd give up and 152 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:28,720 i'd come back 153 00:06:32,629 --> 00:06:31,120 in uh the 16 hour 154 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:32,639 missing time 155 00:06:35,590 --> 00:06:34,479 i and a young woman were taken from a 156 00:06:38,309 --> 00:06:35,600 vehicle 157 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:38,319 know 158 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:41,440 uh and then 159 00:06:46,150 --> 00:06:44,880 the grays had interest in doing surgery 160 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:46,160 on her 161 00:06:53,589 --> 00:06:50,880 due to a series of convulsions she had 162 00:06:55,589 --> 00:06:53,599 and so the greys were curious on those 163 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:55,599 convulsions 164 00:06:58,390 --> 00:06:56,479 so 165 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:58,400 uh 166 00:07:00,870 --> 00:06:59,919 what i remember 167 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:00,880 is 168 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,880 standing behind a wall sitting in a 169 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:04,560 chair behind a wall 170 00:07:06,230 --> 00:07:05,360 while 171 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:06,240 this 172 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:08,080 young woman who was 173 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:10,720 an mk ultra monarch project like the 174 00:07:20,070 --> 00:07:16,550 she was screaming for what appeared to 175 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:20,080 be hours and the grazer basically 176 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:22,080 having her scream herself out i'm not 177 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:23,759 exactly sure but it was a lot of 178 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:26,000 screaming she was doing when she became 179 00:07:31,749 --> 00:07:29,120 resigned then it went quiet 180 00:07:33,589 --> 00:07:31,759 and then a door appeared in the wall 181 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:33,599 and they brought me in 182 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:35,199 a tall white 183 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:37,680 and several grays 184 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:39,919 uh they had just 185 00:07:45,189 --> 00:07:42,080 mantled her head 186 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:45,199 they had removed the left hemisphere 187 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:47,520 of her skull and the left hemisphere of 188 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:49,280 her brain 189 00:07:53,909 --> 00:07:51,280 skull was by her hip 190 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:53,919 the brain was by her head 191 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:55,919 and they asked me what 192 00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:57,120 the thing 193 00:08:02,869 --> 00:08:00,560 the black thing the size of my thumb was 194 00:08:05,270 --> 00:08:02,879 that was connected to her brain stem 195 00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:05,280 from what i can see 196 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:08,560 i had no idea what it was 197 00:08:17,589 --> 00:08:10,960 i found the whole thing horrifying 198 00:08:21,749 --> 00:08:19,830 next 199 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:21,759 so 200 00:08:27,510 --> 00:08:24,400 it made no sense to me 201 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:27,520 a woman with electronics in her head 202 00:08:31,189 --> 00:08:28,400 uh 203 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:31,199 and i spent a lot of years a lot of 204 00:08:35,430 --> 00:08:32,800 sessions trying to find out what 205 00:08:38,949 --> 00:08:35,440 happened in that 16 hour period 206 00:08:40,550 --> 00:08:38,959 so i just threw it out as garbage 207 00:08:41,430 --> 00:08:40,560 as as 208 00:08:44,149 --> 00:08:41,440 not 209 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:44,159 anything of substance 210 00:08:48,150 --> 00:08:45,839 and then i started 211 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:48,160 three or four months later 212 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:50,240 and a lot of the flashbacks i was 213 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:52,800 starting to have were very traumatic 214 00:08:57,750 --> 00:08:55,200 uh crying fits 215 00:08:59,110 --> 00:08:57,760 my sensitivity for what was done to this 216 00:09:01,269 --> 00:08:59,120 young woman 217 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:01,279 uh 218 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:02,880 so i was going through a very rough 219 00:09:06,230 --> 00:09:04,880 emotional time dealing with these 220 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:06,240 memories 221 00:09:12,870 --> 00:09:10,320 so i started researching brains uh shuns 222 00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:12,880 and then eventually i came across the mk 223 00:09:17,269 --> 00:09:14,560 ultra program 224 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:17,279 and uh jose delgado 225 00:09:23,590 --> 00:09:20,640 and his experiments with brain implants 226 00:09:25,990 --> 00:09:23,600 and jose delgado's time he would bring a 227 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:26,000 bull to a stop with a button 228 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:28,240 he made the front pages of international 229 00:09:34,310 --> 00:09:32,230 so 230 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:34,320 then i came across 231 00:09:38,550 --> 00:09:36,880 the project i sent you the picture of 232 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:38,560 right 233 00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:41,040 uh and then that explained to me what 234 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:42,560 was going on 235 00:09:47,350 --> 00:09:45,360 with the woman and the greys 236 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:47,360 the greys would take her many times 237 00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:51,120 they'd take us many times uh she wasn't 238 00:09:58,150 --> 00:09:54,000 involved in the hybrid programs as the 239 00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:58,160 others that were being taken were 240 00:10:01,590 --> 00:09:59,279 they 241 00:10:05,509 --> 00:10:01,600 had this incredible curiosity on what 242 00:10:06,550 --> 00:10:05,519 this instrument was in her head 243 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:06,560 and 244 00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:08,160 eventually i would find out what that 245 00:10:13,990 --> 00:10:11,200 instrument was in her head 246 00:10:14,949 --> 00:10:14,000 and then during the hypnosis sessions i 247 00:10:16,870 --> 00:10:14,959 would come 248 00:10:19,910 --> 00:10:16,880 to remember the sessions 249 00:10:23,110 --> 00:10:19,920 at boston children's hospital 250 00:10:24,870 --> 00:10:23,120 that were occurring to me 251 00:10:26,870 --> 00:10:24,880 with a psychiatrist 252 00:10:28,790 --> 00:10:26,880 a needle in my arm and a rubber ball to 253 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:28,800 hold 254 00:10:33,030 --> 00:10:31,920 they would bring a child into the room 255 00:10:35,190 --> 00:10:33,040 and 256 00:10:37,990 --> 00:10:35,200 uh as my research would tell me these 257 00:10:40,069 --> 00:10:38,000 children had been kidnapped from mexico 258 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:40,079 and south america and they were 259 00:10:44,829 --> 00:10:42,560 considered disposable 260 00:10:49,590 --> 00:10:44,839 and then they would have the the 261 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,190 torture the child 262 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:55,910 this would create a dissociative process 263 00:11:01,750 --> 00:10:58,240 which is what they wanted 264 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:01,760 once they created the trauma 265 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:04,480 a per a new personality would would come 266 00:11:07,509 --> 00:11:05,760 in 267 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:07,519 that would become the personality they 268 00:11:12,710 --> 00:11:10,079 would train 269 00:11:14,870 --> 00:11:12,720 and they used them as they used us as 270 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:14,880 assassins and they use this as couriers 271 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:16,480 of information 272 00:11:22,949 --> 00:11:20,320 in that hypnotic state we have 10 times 273 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:22,959 the strength to withstand torture 274 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:25,040 we also can have up to 10 times the 275 00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:27,680 strength of a normal human 276 00:11:31,509 --> 00:11:29,920 so they found that state incredibly 277 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:31,519 useful 278 00:11:34,230 --> 00:11:32,720 so 279 00:11:37,509 --> 00:11:34,240 this is how 280 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:37,519 they created uh 281 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:40,320 the assassins the cia used 282 00:11:44,150 --> 00:11:42,480 and in my interviews i came across a 283 00:11:45,030 --> 00:11:44,160 couple assassins 284 00:11:47,269 --> 00:11:45,040 uh 285 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:47,279 as one woman that the clearest i 286 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:48,240 remember 287 00:11:53,030 --> 00:11:51,040 she lost a week two weeks 288 00:11:54,790 --> 00:11:53,040 in a split second she didn't know what 289 00:11:56,949 --> 00:11:54,800 happened 290 00:11:59,910 --> 00:11:56,959 uh she came back to work 291 00:12:02,069 --> 00:11:59,920 she was working in a federal company 292 00:12:04,230 --> 00:12:02,079 and she was surprised none of the people 293 00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:04,240 she was working with would question her 294 00:12:09,269 --> 00:12:07,279 as to where she'd been for two weeks 295 00:12:11,590 --> 00:12:09,279 shortly afterwards she was forced off 296 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:11,600 the road by a car 297 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:12,480 uh 298 00:12:15,670 --> 00:12:13,760 and then 299 00:12:17,430 --> 00:12:15,680 and almost got killed 300 00:12:19,750 --> 00:12:17,440 and then uh 301 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:19,760 somehow that problem got resolved so 302 00:12:23,829 --> 00:12:21,760 what we assumed was 303 00:12:26,069 --> 00:12:23,839 that she'd carried out an assassin and 304 00:12:30,629 --> 00:12:26,079 somebody attracted her to where she was 305 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:32,629 the 306 00:12:36,710 --> 00:12:34,320 this is 307 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:36,720 this really made me lose respect for the 308 00:12:41,190 --> 00:12:38,800 united states to realize that these 309 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:41,200 human experiments were being done on 310 00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:43,440 thousands of americans 311 00:12:49,190 --> 00:12:46,480 now in 1976 312 00:12:50,710 --> 00:12:49,200 senator kennedy and church opened up an 313 00:12:53,030 --> 00:12:50,720 investigation 314 00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:53,040 right all they had was 315 00:12:56,629 --> 00:12:55,760 budget amounts 316 00:12:58,949 --> 00:12:56,639 and 317 00:13:01,990 --> 00:12:58,959 that was this investigation i believe i 318 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:03,590 right 319 00:13:07,190 --> 00:13:04,480 uh 320 00:13:10,550 --> 00:13:07,200 and basically they didn't have anything 321 00:13:13,509 --> 00:13:10,560 to to fight anything to investigate 322 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:13,519 uh kennedy ted kennedy was trying to get 323 00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:15,760 at the substance of what they were doing 324 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:17,200 to these children 325 00:13:21,269 --> 00:13:19,360 there was also adult programs that were 326 00:13:23,990 --> 00:13:21,279 being done to adults 327 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:24,000 and one reference is the cia's control 328 00:13:34,069 --> 00:13:31,310 which explains the procedure pretty well 329 00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:34,079 so uh 330 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:36,240 as i further went into interviewing 331 00:13:39,030 --> 00:13:37,360 people 332 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:39,040 uh 333 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:40,560 the accidental 334 00:13:45,509 --> 00:13:43,360 memory that came in hypnosis 335 00:13:48,230 --> 00:13:45,519 they brought the child in as i said 336 00:13:49,509 --> 00:13:48,240 these were disposable children and 337 00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:49,519 they're using 338 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:51,839 a psychiatrist and psychologists out at 339 00:13:55,110 --> 00:13:52,880 yale 340 00:13:58,069 --> 00:13:55,120 and harvard at boston children's 341 00:13:59,990 --> 00:13:58,079 hospital in 1960. 342 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:00,000 the doctor that did me was a doctor 343 00:14:04,230 --> 00:14:02,800 vincent perlow he's dead now 344 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:04,240 when i looked his name up i was 345 00:14:09,430 --> 00:14:06,320 surprised to see mk altar with a line 346 00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:09,440 through it next to it 347 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:11,600 uh so 348 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:13,120 they didn't 349 00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:15,600 the flashbacks and memories i got 350 00:14:20,870 --> 00:14:17,920 i really didn't feel a need to further 351 00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:23,189 but when i heard accounts 352 00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:24,800 of a child 353 00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:26,639 of people before they're involved in the 354 00:14:28,829 --> 00:14:27,680 shootings 355 00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:28,839 talking about 356 00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:32,000 brainwashing and when i hear accounts 357 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:34,000 of another child describing how his 358 00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:36,000 friend looked like he came out of a 359 00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:42,069 this has made me very suspicious that 360 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:44,720 these shootings are being set up 361 00:14:48,710 --> 00:14:46,320 and of course they're going to use the 362 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:48,720 mentally unbalanced child 363 00:14:54,629 --> 00:14:52,240 they're the perfect subject right 364 00:14:57,509 --> 00:14:54,639 so basically 365 00:14:59,189 --> 00:14:57,519 triggers could be anything 366 00:15:01,829 --> 00:14:59,199 uh 367 00:15:02,629 --> 00:15:01,839 there there was discussion in some work 368 00:15:05,509 --> 00:15:02,639 that 369 00:15:07,829 --> 00:15:05,519 disneyland used triggers in their 370 00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:07,839 cartoons 371 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:09,760 uh triggers can be very personal 372 00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:11,760 triggers could trigger a group they can 373 00:15:15,430 --> 00:15:14,000 trigger an individual when the trigger 374 00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:15,440 has been done 375 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:18,959 then the person carries out the task 376 00:15:24,389 --> 00:15:21,600 that they've been programmed to do 377 00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:24,399 with no awareness 378 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:28,000 of it after they've completed it 379 00:15:32,069 --> 00:15:30,480 so i feel with the sudden increase in 380 00:15:34,710 --> 00:15:32,079 these school shootings 381 00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:34,720 and hearing some of the testimonies that 382 00:15:39,829 --> 00:15:36,240 this is what's behind the school 383 00:15:42,230 --> 00:15:39,839 shootings really also interesting 384 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:42,240 that the democrats 385 00:15:45,030 --> 00:15:44,160 were president 386 00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:45,040 during 387 00:15:49,590 --> 00:15:47,440 these two different groups of shootings 388 00:15:50,790 --> 00:15:49,600 over the years it was a democrat 389 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:50,800 president 390 00:15:55,189 --> 00:15:52,160 obama 391 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:55,199 all these shootings biden all these 392 00:15:58,150 --> 00:15:56,800 shootings 393 00:15:59,829 --> 00:15:58,160 so i thought those were interesting 394 00:16:01,749 --> 00:15:59,839 correlations 395 00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:01,759 and i felt they were purposely being 396 00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:08,310 and again 397 00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:10,000 my opinion from 398 00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:12,480 from my experience from 399 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:14,480 what they did to me 400 00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:17,600 can easily make a child 401 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:18,399 kill 402 00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:21,040 do anything i know the hypnotic process 403 00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:22,959 procedures to do it 404 00:16:28,550 --> 00:16:26,560 i studied them extensively 405 00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:28,560 and it was also interesting how the 406 00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:29,680 government 407 00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:32,160 and the media came out 408 00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:33,279 uh 409 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:37,519 calling hypnosis useless not reliable 410 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:40,240 they didn't want hypnosis used on their 411 00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:41,360 subjects 412 00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:43,440 which were thousands of people in this 413 00:16:48,069 --> 00:16:45,120 country 414 00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:48,079 so they want to disclaim hypnosis 415 00:16:52,150 --> 00:16:50,880 as a method of 416 00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:52,160 healing 417 00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:54,639 hypnosis is a phenomenal method of 418 00:16:59,269 --> 00:16:57,040 healing for pts 419 00:17:03,590 --> 00:16:59,279 trauma i think it's the best 420 00:17:07,909 --> 00:17:06,150 let me ask you this kenneth um 421 00:17:09,909 --> 00:17:07,919 from the very beginning how did you get 422 00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:09,919 involved with this how that what was the 423 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:12,079 procedure for you becoming part of this 424 00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:13,600 program 425 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:18,079 uh i was diagnosed as mentally [\h__\h] 426 00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:20,880 so i was sent to boston 427 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:23,280 children's hospital 428 00:17:27,429 --> 00:17:25,600 to deal with uh 429 00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:27,439 the learning disability 430 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:28,960 at that time they called it mixed 431 00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:31,120 dominance 432 00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:34,960 and at that time in 1960 433 00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:37,280 they were they were looking for ideal 434 00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:39,360 victims in school systems 435 00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:41,919 with the ideal person 436 00:17:44,549 --> 00:17:43,600 in a one to five 437 00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:44,559 number 438 00:17:50,549 --> 00:17:47,360 they want the person that's most easily 439 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:50,559 hypnotized for these projects 440 00:17:56,549 --> 00:17:53,440 one out of every five individuals 441 00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:56,559 can be hypnotized somewhat 442 00:18:00,390 --> 00:17:58,240 against their will 443 00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:00,400 subliminally very easily 444 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:02,080 so these were the subjects they wanted 445 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:08,230 so 446 00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:10,400 that brought me into boston children's i 447 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:12,799 believe boston children's hospital is 448 00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:15,440 still practicing this 449 00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:17,600 uh i believe these experiments are going 450 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:18,400 on 451 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:20,720 in 1963 452 00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:23,280 a human rights 453 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:25,600 hearing or group 454 00:18:30,310 --> 00:18:27,840 came in and they dropped the numbers 455 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:30,320 dramatically down on the people they 456 00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:32,240 involved in the project 457 00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:34,240 in 1976 458 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:36,400 when senator kennedy insanity church 459 00:18:40,549 --> 00:18:37,760 investigated 460 00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:40,559 jesse helms head of the cia 461 00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:43,280 supposedly destroyed all documents 462 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:45,039 but then these 463 00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:53,270 and the young woman i was with 464 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:54,840 was one of 465 00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:56,640 these 466 00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:57,600 that 467 00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:58,799 had 468 00:19:02,230 --> 00:19:00,880 the implant and these implants didn't 469 00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:02,240 work 470 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,200 they were kind of a failure i talked to 471 00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:07,919 doctors that removed them from people 472 00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:10,720 they were basically impossible to remove 473 00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:12,400 they were put into these children at 474 00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:14,320 about age six 475 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:16,960 some reason they picked the age six 476 00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:18,000 uh 477 00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:19,919 and so the brain 478 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:21,919 developed and became dependent on these 479 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:23,280 devices 480 00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:25,440 so the greys are trying to figure out a 481 00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:26,960 way of removal 482 00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:29,039 for this girl 483 00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:30,400 uh 484 00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:31,760 i don't know 485 00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:34,720 if they ever did or didn't 486 00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:36,320 uh 487 00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:39,200 they did surgery on her taking parts 488 00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:41,600 from me 489 00:19:45,909 --> 00:19:44,799 uh i don't know the results of that i 490 00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:45,919 you know i don't 491 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:48,080 know what happened with that what parts 492 00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:50,240 my eyes were taken out they were 493 00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:53,039 accessing something behind my eyes 494 00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:54,880 uh so 495 00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:57,200 my impression was 496 00:20:04,630 --> 00:19:59,760 they felt they had failed 497 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,750 was um was and i'm k ultra 498 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:12,549 a a program that was done with in the 499 00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:15,600 association with the military and 500 00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:18,640 the cia correct the initial research 501 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:21,760 right they brought in uh 502 00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:23,440 dr mengele 503 00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:25,600 right changed his name 504 00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:26,960 brought him in to continue the 505 00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:28,320 experiments he was doing in the 506 00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:30,880 concentration camps 507 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:33,840 so the cia then would utilize this for 508 00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:36,320 many of the other federal agents 509 00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:37,679 c's 510 00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:39,679 military intelligence 511 00:20:49,029 --> 00:20:45,990 i was interviewing another woman 512 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:49,039 who described being raped repeatedly by 513 00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:52,640 her father in a mason temple 514 00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:00,789 she saw what she thought was an angel 515 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:03,360 leaving her body 516 00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:05,360 and the woman would tell her to return 517 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:07,280 back to her body 518 00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:08,400 and i thought 519 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:11,280 i didn't get to find she was the only 520 00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:14,320 case that brought the fact that out of 521 00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:23,350 do you think that 522 00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:25,760 were the extraterrestrials involved with 523 00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:29,520 this with the uh this is cia this is man 524 00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:31,919 unless we're looking at reptilian 525 00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:34,640 draconian 526 00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:36,960 uh which have a 527 00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:39,919 an effect over a lot of things 528 00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:42,559 but this is primarily cia 529 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:45,039 and russia was involved in this in the 530 00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:46,320 in the book 531 00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:48,960 cia's control of candy 532 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:51,440 the medications being administered to 533 00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:52,240 her 534 00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:55,200 had russian names on them 535 00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:57,760 so the us and russia and russia's 536 00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:00,720 competition in the us's competition may 537 00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:06,870 i'm not sure about france i know it was 538 00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:09,360 being done in canada 539 00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,080 uh those are the only two countries uh 540 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:14,400 but there i had the idea that it was 541 00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:17,520 being done in all the allies 542 00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:19,520 french england russia 543 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:25,029 okay 544 00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:28,960 were you ever involved with any uh 545 00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:32,960 remote viewing as far as with mk ultra 546 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:35,600 and uh 547 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,789 uh 548 00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:45,590 i was activated 549 00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:46,400 to 550 00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:48,559 participate 551 00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:51,679 in going into a facility 552 00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:52,799 and 553 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,200 i believe i was i was 554 00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,120 i don't know what agency i was working 555 00:23:01,990 --> 00:22:59,360 for i'm assuming a federal agency 556 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:02,000 the uranium somehow 557 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,720 seemed like they were tracking uranium 558 00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:06,720 being shipped 559 00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:09,679 so when they sent us into the facility 560 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:11,280 we were to kill everybody in the 561 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:13,360 facility 562 00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:14,720 uh 563 00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:16,880 i entered put two 564 00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:18,880 bullets in the man to my left in the 565 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:20,080 door 566 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:21,760 went put another bullet and another 567 00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:22,880 person 568 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:24,720 the guy that was working with me came in 569 00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,240 on the other side 570 00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:28,559 he fired one shot so i assuming three 571 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,159 people were killed 572 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:32,960 uh i lost it when the gun jammed on the 573 00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:35,200 second person 574 00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:37,919 i started screaming i threw the gun 575 00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:39,919 and so i believe that is the reason i 576 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,600 was removed 577 00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:43,600 because they don't want that conscious 578 00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:45,840 awareness right 579 00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,880 and in the super soldier training that 580 00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:51,039 comes up repeatedly where they throw 581 00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:52,799 people out because they can't control 582 00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:56,720 them from the babies in the cages 583 00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:58,080 and there was a sighting in new 584 00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:59,360 hampshire 585 00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:01,600 that was suspect of that 586 00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:03,360 they had no trouble 587 00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:04,799 they would take the babies they would 588 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:07,520 get the babies from many places 589 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,310 and i was surprised to come across 590 00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,669 a woman i 591 00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:19,919 was looking up 592 00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:22,000 uh 593 00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:24,559 there were a hundred of her born in 594 00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,789 so that means she was entered into the 595 00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:32,880 system 596 00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:35,279 and she was done through a hospital 597 00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:37,840 and the the birth certificates were 598 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:38,799 created 599 00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:45,350 when you later went through hypnosis 600 00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:46,640 what exactly 601 00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,320 came forth 602 00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:50,559 during the procedure for the initial 603 00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:52,880 procedures nothing 604 00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:55,919 i don't know i don't remember 605 00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:57,679 then we started to realize what we call 606 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:05,190 the other personality 607 00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:06,310 and 608 00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:08,880 so we weren't going to get anything with 609 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:11,360 my recollection 610 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:14,400 so we had to find the personalities 611 00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:17,120 that were involved 612 00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:18,480 and then 613 00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:21,760 speaking to the personalities involved 614 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:29,269 the pleiadians 615 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,870 the the dissociative the pla in many 616 00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:37,200 abductions the person is taken straight 617 00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:39,039 out of sleep 618 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:40,559 in the deepest state of sleep they've 619 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:41,600 taken 620 00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,640 state of sleep 621 00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,320 because they don't want the conscious 622 00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:48,799 awareness 623 00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:52,080 then that personality adapts and relates 624 00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,720 and deals with the pleiadians 625 00:26:02,149 --> 00:25:57,279 but we also have conscious experiences 626 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,549 the grace i have no memory but there's 627 00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:07,200 very few memories with right uh for the 628 00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,510 you look at a clock 629 00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:16,000 it's an hour later 630 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:17,679 uh 631 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,400 13 women would be taken with me 632 00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:22,320 six of those would be used in the hybrid 633 00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:24,960 program embryos will be put into them 634 00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:27,120 and that's what was uncovered with the 635 00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:28,400 hypnosis 636 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,279 women 637 00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:33,360 that were involved 638 00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:34,880 uh 639 00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,909 and they would go through the trauma the 640 00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:42,000 fear the terror 641 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:43,120 uh 642 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:43,290 in 643 00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:44,400 [Music] 644 00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:46,880 interviewing recent gray abductees the 645 00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:49,120 process has changed 646 00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:52,320 the pleiadians had a lot of problems 647 00:27:02,470 --> 00:26:59,190 so in the the woman abducted 648 00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:02,480 in 2018 that i interviewed 649 00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:05,760 an incision would be done in her stomach 650 00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:07,760 the embryo will be put into that 651 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:10,240 incision 652 00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:11,440 she was 653 00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:13,520 very voluntary 654 00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,520 there was no screaming there was no 655 00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,279 resistance 656 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:19,279 so the grays have adapted the 657 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,440 methodology 658 00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:23,760 to accommodate for the emotions of the 659 00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:25,760 victims 660 00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:29,039 but in 75 76 77 661 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:35,750 so do you consider yourself part of the 662 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:37,840 super soldier program 663 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:40,320 uh what do you consider yourself as 664 00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,240 being part of a super soldier program 665 00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:45,760 there seemed to be 666 00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,799 the flashbacks that came 667 00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:50,559 seemed to show 668 00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:52,640 some of that 669 00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:54,320 in that 670 00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:56,000 uh i haven't 671 00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:57,440 i don't know if i sent you any 672 00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:00,480 photographs of plasma teleportation you 673 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:02,880 may have i think vincent has them let's 674 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:04,480 see if we can get them up 675 00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:07,760 in plasma teleportation 676 00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,120 you're turned 677 00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:11,120 into energy 678 00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:13,760 and teleported as energy 679 00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:15,679 and in this process time could be 680 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:18,799 traveled we did missions in this process 681 00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:22,000 my understanding in this process 682 00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:23,919 was 683 00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:26,080 from experiences 684 00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:27,120 was 685 00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:31,120 we had abnormal strength 686 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:32,399 and 687 00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:35,600 almost like superman 688 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,279 uh 689 00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:39,520 the flashbacks that i got again i didn't 690 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,760 pursue because i 691 00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:43,360 didn't want to 692 00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,200 deal with the traumas 693 00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:47,120 from these experiments 694 00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,039 because i don't consider 695 00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:51,039 with a needle in my arm and a rubber 696 00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:52,640 ball in my hand 697 00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:55,760 myself responsible for the actions 698 00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:02,470 i would rather deal with the positive 699 00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:10,710 do you um do you have any idea what 700 00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:12,960 happened to the women who were with you 701 00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:15,520 or were involved with this 702 00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:21,110 one was notified by the military 703 00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:23,039 department of defense 704 00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:25,039 i didn't know what top secret security 705 00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:26,880 clearances were about 706 00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,000 i didn't know they had me sign one 707 00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,320 so the vehicle surveillance when i was 708 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:34,399 first getting the job 709 00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:37,120 and that vehicle surveillance 710 00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,799 two officers would see an abduction 711 00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:42,559 with a young college girl and went a 712 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:47,190 they would question me 713 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,399 i thought i went to a movie 714 00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:52,080 they questioned the girl 715 00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:55,039 she thought she went to a movie 716 00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:00,389 but that wasn't what they saw when they 717 00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:02,320 watched us 718 00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:04,640 they saw a grey ship 719 00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:06,840 taking us in the 720 00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,389 okay 721 00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,320 and so that's when they brought in the 722 00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:18,640 young agent 723 00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:20,320 she was 724 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:23,200 taken from a jail 725 00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,399 uh 726 00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:26,880 they got her to volunteer 727 00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:30,159 she had been in jail with her husband 728 00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:35,510 and 729 00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,389 for 730 00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,640 her husband's early release i think i'm 731 00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,640 not exactly sure 732 00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,559 she would commit a homicide in the time 733 00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:48,720 she was working with me they cleaned up 734 00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:51,360 after her pretty good she stabbed she 735 00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:52,960 stabbed the man pretty good in her car 736 00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:55,600 hitchhiking 737 00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:58,480 it it was it never made the news 738 00:31:02,789 --> 00:31:00,000 no yeah 739 00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:02,799 uh and that was in bill ricker on run 28 740 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:07,830 so 741 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:11,679 you state that you you joined the navy 742 00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:14,080 and i ran into this you ran into the 743 00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:15,120 navy 744 00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:18,080 and uh that they do still surveillance 745 00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:21,039 you to this day what is that all about 746 00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:22,720 i don't know 747 00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:25,679 what the secret was but when i tried to 748 00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:27,440 find out 749 00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:30,399 uh well the woman that i mentioned ufo 750 00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,159 girl 751 00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,559 and somebody's interested in doing a 752 00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:36,799 movie with on her 753 00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:41,120 she was shot in the head in 1981. 754 00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:43,519 i was trying to get further information 755 00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:45,519 from her at that time 756 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:47,919 i believe that when i was in the town 757 00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,320 was when her husband shot her in the 758 00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:52,480 head 759 00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:56,320 yeah that's plasma teleportation 760 00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:58,480 we had to of course play the contrast 761 00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,360 down 762 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:01,440 because the light is so painful from 763 00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:02,880 this 764 00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:04,640 and that's how visitors 765 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,630 in this 766 00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:12,480 i'm coming in 767 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:15,919 this will become me as it takes form 768 00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,880 i've just completed a lot of video work 769 00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:19,919 on this 770 00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:22,799 that i haven't quite finished 771 00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:26,320 most cameras will not film this 772 00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:27,039 uh 773 00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,159 been working with an individual by the 774 00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:32,320 name of david eckhart who has been going 775 00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:33,840 through something similar to this over 776 00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:35,919 the past decade or so 777 00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,559 and his his photographs are very similar 778 00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:40,159 to yours 779 00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,720 and uh 780 00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:44,640 i i 781 00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,120 saw it how much how similar it is to 782 00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:51,600 what he's been experiencing 783 00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:54,159 um that's one way they take us there's 784 00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:57,600 several ways they take us right 785 00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:59,840 did they take your physical body is that 786 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,720 how they 787 00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:02,640 they do their physical body and they do 788 00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:05,360 surgery on us right 789 00:33:08,830 --> 00:33:07,200 and i could send you photographs of the 790 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:08,840 surgery they did 791 00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:12,000 okay uh i have a lot of the marks the 792 00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:13,360 grays 793 00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:15,919 are so good they don't usually leave 794 00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:17,519 there'll be marks that look like 795 00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,480 scratches right they come together to a 796 00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:22,480 point yeah i've seen them 797 00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:24,640 yeah and then they disappear in the end 798 00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:25,679 there's no 799 00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:28,880 uh 800 00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,039 the pleiadians 801 00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:33,360 uh 802 00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:34,640 they don't 803 00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:37,440 uh 804 00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:42,559 they did infect a group of us with covet 805 00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:43,919 uh 806 00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:46,480 but for the most part 807 00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:47,519 they don't 808 00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,720 do uh surgery 809 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:52,559 even though i have seen them do surgery 810 00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:58,070 um 811 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:00,799 is this another portal opening up 812 00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:03,039 i don't know what this is yeah 813 00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:05,519 i haven't seen that one before yeah but 814 00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:08,159 that looks like 815 00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:10,480 it looks like uh 816 00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:12,960 during these teleportations there's a 817 00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:15,520 tremendous electrical 818 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:17,599 uh 819 00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,440 emfs are incredibly high right 820 00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:23,440 i believe they render 821 00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:25,359 the other person 822 00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:28,320 to remain asleep 823 00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,399 there was something about genetics that 824 00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:32,639 came up that they told me 825 00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:35,200 that there was genetics involved 826 00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:38,320 in the ability of teleportation i don't 827 00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:40,879 know if that was connected to time or if 828 00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:43,040 that was connected just to plasma 829 00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,520 teleportation but i've seen them do 830 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:46,960 people 831 00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:50,320 uh i don't want to speak too much but 832 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,550 and 833 00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:00,710 so 834 00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:03,200 whatever that genetics thing is doesn't 835 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:04,880 seem necessary 836 00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:05,760 to 837 00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:12,550 because i've seen them do 838 00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:15,040 uh in this house four different people 839 00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:17,119 have been have been talking numerous 840 00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:18,160 different ways 841 00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:20,640 well let me ask you about this then uh 842 00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:22,960 since you had this experience with mk 843 00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:26,320 ultra and some of the other programs 844 00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:28,160 do people do you believe for the most 845 00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:31,119 part are they being abducted 846 00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,280 in conjunction with 847 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:35,839 these these secret programs or is it 848 00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:38,480 just an entirely different scenario so 849 00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:41,440 many people were being abducted 850 00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:45,839 in the late 50s and 60s 61. 851 00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:49,440 so i came across people of both 852 00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:52,000 but in my interviews 853 00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:55,359 but i didn't find a correlation 854 00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:58,800 to the et's but i did find a correlation 855 00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:01,200 to child abuse 856 00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,400 physical abuse by parents 857 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:06,320 and also 858 00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:07,760 the parents 859 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:09,520 unaware 860 00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:10,720 of 861 00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:15,119 they did it 862 00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,000 that came up in a lot of my interviews 863 00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:20,079 the people in my age group 864 00:36:24,790 --> 00:36:22,160 came out of very physically abusive 865 00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,670 uh 866 00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:27,839 with the younger age groups i didn't 867 00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:29,680 find that cycle 868 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:32,240 so it was almost like i was wondering 869 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:35,280 okay the woman is beating her child 870 00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,640 she has no memory of beating her child 871 00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,240 is this a method of creating 872 00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:42,640 dissociation 873 00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,119 you would think it seems 874 00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,200 yeah it all seems like it's part of the 875 00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:49,680 the whole program uh 876 00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:52,640 it's not the mk ultra program right it's 877 00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:53,920 but 878 00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:57,280 it seems to mimic i think 879 00:37:01,990 --> 00:37:00,079 ultimately the mk altar program came 880 00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:02,000 from the ets 881 00:37:09,470 --> 00:37:04,880 you think so yeah 882 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:09,480 uh i uh hitler was involved with a group 883 00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:13,200 antarcticas i think they're called 884 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,240 and 885 00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:16,480 there's recorded documentation of his 886 00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:19,119 landings on mars 887 00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:20,720 uh 888 00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,200 there was a a e.t group involved with 889 00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:25,359 hitler and then i know you know about 890 00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:28,400 the attack on the antarctic 891 00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:30,960 admiral byrd right where the russian 892 00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:33,520 where german submarines had disappeared 893 00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:36,560 in the antarctic so the allies went 894 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:39,760 to pursue those uh 895 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,270 of course the battle was lost 896 00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,750 and i question that as being the shadow 897 00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:52,800 government 898 00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:53,920 formation 899 00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:55,520 of the shadow government the government 900 00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:57,200 above governments 901 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:00,400 the creator of covet 19 902 00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:06,710 and 903 00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:08,240 the vaccines 904 00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:10,480 from my interviews of the two local 905 00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:11,920 hospitals here 906 00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:17,510 um 907 00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:19,760 back to the navy uh 908 00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,160 did you ever have to do any in 909 00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,160 particular any work or anything for the 910 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:26,240 navy at all 911 00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:29,520 i was in their nuclear program 912 00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,800 for a nuclear sub 913 00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:34,640 but i ended up 914 00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:38,079 i got angry and i quit the program 915 00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:44,710 working on a destroyer in boston east 916 00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:52,230 but there was no 917 00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:53,760 uh the navy 918 00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:56,000 was notified 919 00:38:58,829 --> 00:38:57,119 of 920 00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:58,839 the 921 00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:01,520 surveillance uh 922 00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:02,400 because 923 00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,079 my friends we all had top secret 924 00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,480 security clearances and they were scared 925 00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,480 by the surveillance 926 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:10,800 so they threatened that if i didn't go 927 00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:11,760 to 928 00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:23,359 them earlier 929 00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:29,430 and then when they got back to me they 930 00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:32,240 gave me the choice to leave the navy 931 00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:34,880 with an honorable discharge 932 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:38,000 i chose not to at that time 933 00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,040 uh 934 00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:41,599 so i don't know they seem to have found 935 00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,680 something out 936 00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:46,079 i don't know what and then the fbi the 937 00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:49,119 fdea was involved because the two that 938 00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:51,680 died in new hampshire 939 00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,560 were fdea agents federal drug 940 00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:56,800 enforcement agents 941 00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:58,560 so 942 00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:01,280 in the the ufo government network the 943 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:04,640 fbi the fda a lot of federal agencies 944 00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:06,640 are used 945 00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:09,680 so i went underground i went undercover 946 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,560 with an fdea agent to locate the body of 947 00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:14,800 the missing agent 948 00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:16,480 i thought it was one agent but it was 949 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:21,670 and so that's 950 00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:25,200 the men in suits were asking about that 951 00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:26,240 and and 952 00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:27,920 i i can't 953 00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:29,200 uh 954 00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:32,000 i can't speak too much of the military 955 00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,470 and they're still pursuing you they 956 00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:40,400 watched me closely 957 00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:43,760 and four and three others 958 00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:46,400 vehicle air 959 00:40:50,829 --> 00:40:49,280 phone taps electronics in our homes 960 00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,839 consistent 961 00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:52,640 break-ins uh 962 00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:55,280 this has been continuous for 46 years 963 00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:01,589 now i will i will say something i i i 964 00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:03,280 usually use two computers while i'm 965 00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:05,440 doing these shows 966 00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:08,000 and my computer 967 00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:10,240 over here on my on my right was fried 968 00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,400 risk before the show 969 00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:14,079 that's funny because when 970 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:15,280 i sent 971 00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,319 the information to you 972 00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:20,480 it disappeared for three hours 973 00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:21,680 yeah 974 00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:24,400 so they were reviewing the documents and 975 00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,520 what i was going to discuss with you 976 00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:29,599 but then they sent it back 977 00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:31,839 and that was unusual 978 00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:34,000 usually when i get things deleted on the 979 00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,440 computer 980 00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:37,200 they're gone forever 981 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:38,960 but they returned it 982 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,440 three hours later which meant 983 00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:43,520 the monitors didn't have a problem with 984 00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:48,870 yeah i have no idea what happened to 985 00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:50,960 this computer 986 00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:53,359 before with with 987 00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:55,359 with radio shows and radio stations 988 00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,480 there's a lot of things that have 989 00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:58,160 happened 990 00:42:01,910 --> 00:41:59,599 really 991 00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:01,920 yeah that's never happened to me before 992 00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,480 yeah i mean it's bizarre 993 00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:05,839 because i was i was actually trying to 994 00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:08,079 fix it just before you came home with me 995 00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,480 and it won't even let me into uh it 996 00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:12,160 wouldn't even let me 997 00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,520 start the computer 998 00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:15,200 yeah they have complete control of this 999 00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,040 computer 1000 00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:19,359 so if they didn't want me doing the show 1001 00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:27,589 interesting but then mk also isn't there 1002 00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:28,800 their thing 1003 00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:33,760 right 1004 00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:40,069 is there anything else that you wanted 1005 00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:42,839 to explain to us to get out 1006 00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:45,920 there uh what i'm trying to get from my 1007 00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:47,440 research 1008 00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,079 is is speaking with abductees and 1009 00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,880 contactees right i want to hear their 1010 00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:54,480 stories 1011 00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:57,599 so i have a simple email i refer people 1012 00:43:01,829 --> 00:42:59,520 to 1013 00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:01,839 khop 53 1014 00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,720 outlook.com 1015 00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:06,960 okay i've done a lot of counseling 1016 00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:09,119 helping people understand the abduction 1017 00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,319 experiences 1018 00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:12,319 in turn i'm getting information from 1019 00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,119 them 1020 00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,359 i've gotten information from other 1021 00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:17,599 celestial groups 1022 00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,640 and 1023 00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:20,640 i think this information is very 1024 00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:21,920 important 1025 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:24,319 so that's what i've been pursuing 1026 00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:27,599 in this country and other countries 1027 00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,599 i'm hoping to do my next show on an 1028 00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:31,359 english network 1029 00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:33,599 because i like the question and answer 1030 00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,560 forum 1031 00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,079 but i want to be doing it with the 1032 00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:38,480 listeners 1033 00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:40,960 because that tells me where they are 1034 00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:43,920 on their understanding of it 1035 00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:46,800 by the questions 1036 00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:47,839 interesting 1037 00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:51,040 and one thing i want to also say 1038 00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:53,839 many of abductees and contactees are 1039 00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:57,280 unaware just as i was most of my life 1040 00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,359 that they are abductees or contactees 1041 00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:03,040 i've met several 1042 00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:05,280 in both my abductions 1043 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:11,829 that don't know 1044 00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:14,160 their abductions right 1045 00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:15,440 right 1046 00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:17,200 yeah well see i've been involved with a 1047 00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:20,480 lot of alien abductees and uh i've 1048 00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:23,040 been present for regressions and such 1049 00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:25,040 and it it's an interest it's interesting 1050 00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:26,480 some of the stuff that does come up with 1051 00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,520 it 1052 00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:30,480 but your your actual 1053 00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,720 uh experiences in 1054 00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,800 in a way do mimic that of david's and a 1055 00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,200 few other people i've been involved with 1056 00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:42,550 so i i you know i'm just wondering how 1057 00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:45,119 much how much connection there really is 1058 00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:47,760 um have there been any other 1059 00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:51,520 alien beings any other races other than 1060 00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:53,839 uh the ones you talked about that have 1061 00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:56,319 showed up even even humans i mean i i'm 1062 00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:59,040 quite i'm quite quite quite aware 1063 00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,880 that there are humans working in 1064 00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,480 conjunction with these factors well 1065 00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,720 every military branch 1066 00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:06,720 is involved with et's 1067 00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:14,480 and that's why i am so frustrated 1068 00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:15,280 with 1069 00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,960 our ufos real right 1070 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:19,920 uh 1071 00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:22,560 let's get let's get to the messages 1072 00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,160 of the ets 1073 00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:26,960 they come from highly advanced cultures 1074 00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:29,119 thousands and thousands of years the 1075 00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:30,880 pleiadians say they haven't killed one 1076 00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:40,150 they have a governmental structure 1077 00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,800 that doesn't involve an economic 1078 00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,480 structure 1079 00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:46,400 of wealth 1080 00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:54,470 uh 1081 00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:56,000 you're not having to worry about 1082 00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:57,359 survival 1083 00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:00,400 in the palladian society 1084 00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:03,280 you train everybody does their job 1085 00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:05,359 everybody works together 1086 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,560 to serve god is to serve one another 1087 00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:10,560 it's a whole different aspect of 1088 00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,839 philosophy 1089 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,480 and 1090 00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,800 the pleiadian's 1091 00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:18,720 existence is very 1092 00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:20,960 in their world 1093 00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,720 i'm lost 1094 00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:23,920 uh 1095 00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:27,119 when you see pages moving in books 1096 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:28,400 i mean when you see 1097 00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:30,880 pictures moving in books 1098 00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,560 there's things going on 1099 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:34,400 that are not going on 1100 00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,760 in 1101 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:37,680 our reality 1102 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:38,560 so 1103 00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:39,760 they've been 1104 00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,640 introducing me recently 1105 00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,319 in late mornings 1106 00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:47,119 to their culture 1107 00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:48,720 and 1108 00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:50,079 uh 1109 00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:52,000 growing up i was dealing with an 1110 00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:55,040 adaptive culture of platians that were 1111 00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:57,040 adapting to earth 1112 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,319 i visited a colony in the alps 1113 00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:02,880 that was surrounded with wire 1114 00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:06,319 12-foot fences and laser wire on top 1115 00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:09,599 and guards at the front 1116 00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:12,960 so the pleiadians are adapting to our 1117 00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:14,800 world 1118 00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:16,640 uh 1119 00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:19,520 their world is vastly different in many 1120 00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:20,960 ways 1121 00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:23,599 but i definitely think as 1122 00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:26,240 spiritual beings they're evolved because 1123 00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,559 they have the society to allow for their 1124 00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,480 spiritual involvement 1125 00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,720 i think in this society 1126 00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:34,960 spiritual involvement is incredibly 1127 00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,960 difficult 1128 00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,480 uh or 1129 00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:40,079 self-actualization 1130 00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,599 or 1131 00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:43,119 uh 1132 00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,040 i mean when you're fighting for survival 1133 00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:50,000 uh like maslow's uh triangle of 1134 00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:51,599 hierarchy 1135 00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,839 if you're fighting for food 1136 00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,200 you're not going to have much of a 1137 00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:57,680 chance to experience 1138 00:48:10,069 --> 00:47:58,480 uh 1139 00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:10,079 we 1140 00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:12,000 coming into the world often bring 1141 00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:13,359 violence 1142 00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:14,880 inadvertently 1143 00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:17,680 and we're greatly discouraged 1144 00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:18,800 uh 1145 00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:21,200 a friend of mine with the palladiums 1146 00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,559 was 1147 00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,960 dismissed and told that they didn't want 1148 00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:27,119 her because of her fits 1149 00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:29,040 uh they don't 1150 00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:32,000 there's no violence in their culture 1151 00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:34,800 there's acceptance in their culture 1152 00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:38,480 uh always acceptance in their culture 1153 00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:40,720 uh 1154 00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:43,200 are are they among us and have they been 1155 00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:45,520 controlling us through other means 1156 00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:47,359 there's three different groups i've 1157 00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:49,119 classified the pleiadians in three 1158 00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:50,160 groups 1159 00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:50,960 okay 1160 00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:53,920 the first group lives on earth 1161 00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:56,240 and they were from a seating 1162 00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,160 they said tens of thousands of years ago 1163 00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:02,640 that's where i come from 1164 00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:03,920 and earth's 1165 00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:07,040 and so that's one group they work with 1166 00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:08,880 they included that group in their 1167 00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,440 breeding program 1168 00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:13,839 the other group is the ones that are 1169 00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:17,040 learning and adapting 1170 00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:18,240 and then 1171 00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:19,359 the ones 1172 00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,000 from their system 1173 00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:24,400 they are trans they are 1174 00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:27,200 going back and forth 1175 00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:29,760 so they're in contact with their 1176 00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:32,800 seven planetary system 1177 00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:37,670 and so 1178 00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:43,599 they have communities in their ships 1179 00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,480 and 1180 00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,319 that's where i was having a lot of my 1181 00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:48,720 first experiences was in their their 1182 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,040 very large ships so you were actually 1183 00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:52,800 taking you were actually taken to this 1184 00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:54,319 craft 1185 00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:58,480 child okay 1186 00:50:02,230 --> 00:50:00,720 and i wandered around in them i felt 1187 00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:02,240 kind of left out 1188 00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:04,480 because i wasn't in the regiment that 1189 00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:06,160 was going on 1190 00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,359 uh 1191 00:50:11,829 --> 00:50:09,599 i watched a room change and i couldn't 1192 00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:11,839 understand how it changed 1193 00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:15,200 from an auditorium with seats to a flat 1194 00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:16,720 floor 1195 00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:17,839 i've seen 1196 00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:18,880 objects 1197 00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:20,960 change form 1198 00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:26,950 there's uh 1199 00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:29,040 they they they 1200 00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:31,440 the ships they seem to be working on 1201 00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:33,040 adaptation 1202 00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:35,119 to our culture 1203 00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:37,839 uh they speak english 1204 00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:38,800 so 1205 00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:41,839 growing up at five and six 1206 00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:44,960 these were the ones i was introduced to 1207 00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:47,440 and then i grew up with them 1208 00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:48,559 and 1209 00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:54,960 didn't have names tall tall blonde uh 1210 00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:56,960 angry brunette 1211 00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,000 uh 1212 00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:00,640 and i would see them the last one i saw 1213 00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:03,760 was angry brunette in 2004 1214 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:11,990 and sexuality 1215 00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:12,880 is 1216 00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:16,079 expressed without limitation 1217 00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:20,000 uh the children are all taken care of 1218 00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:26,950 i'm very impressed with their structure 1219 00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:29,040 they have a council 1220 00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:31,280 that sets rules 1221 00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,040 a couple times i 1222 00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:35,599 others have been before the council 1223 00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:37,359 uh 1224 00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:38,559 i've never 1225 00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,920 been 1226 00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:41,680 presented to them 1227 00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:43,920 there's a sexual situation 1228 00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,240 that i got tested on 1229 00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,319 because there's a complaint by one of 1230 00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:50,079 the women 1231 00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:52,640 in the breeding program 1232 00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:55,440 so then they put me through this test 1233 00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:57,760 with men in lab coats 1234 00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:59,680 and a blonde in a 1235 00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:01,119 bed 1236 00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:02,640 and they took notes 1237 00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,559 on our behaviors 1238 00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:05,839 and then they let me back into the 1239 00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:07,760 breeding program 1240 00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,319 surgery on me 1241 00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:14,640 they implanted 1242 00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:19,359 they told me into 1243 00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:21,359 the prostate 1244 00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:22,319 uh 1245 00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:25,200 and that was very painful 1246 00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:27,280 they warned me about it they gave me the 1247 00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:29,440 images about it but i misunderstood the 1248 00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:30,960 images 1249 00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,920 but that had me in bed for about a day 1250 00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:35,839 it was pretty painful 1251 00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:39,280 uh the medication they use for pain 1252 00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:41,839 just eliminates pain 1253 00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:44,480 there's no aura there's no high there's 1254 00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:45,760 no low 1255 00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:48,079 but when it wears off the pain comes 1256 00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:50,400 with full force 1257 00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:52,400 uh 1258 00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:54,640 and a couple times the pain came in the 1259 00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,430 and i basically had to go to a bed i 1260 00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,599 couldn't function 1261 00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:06,000 so this surgeries 1262 00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:07,920 have been painful 1263 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:09,359 and you're still experiencing some of 1264 00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:10,240 this 1265 00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:13,280 yeah i just posted a recent surgery on a 1266 00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:15,599 lung replacement 1267 00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:21,030 and that's what i'm recovering from this 1268 00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:24,630 they broke 1269 00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:31,030 and 1270 00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:35,680 the lung became infected with uh omicron 1271 00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:38,000 that was the only part in me that became 1272 00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:39,280 infected 1273 00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:41,920 so viral pneumonia took infection and 1274 00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:44,240 then all the five ribs on this side 1275 00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:46,160 broke 1276 00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:47,200 like 1277 00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:50,800 so three of the ribs i think have 1278 00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:53,440 settled then i go i meet with a surgeon 1279 00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:54,839 on the other two 1280 00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:58,000 ribs but uh i'll send you a picture of 1281 00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:00,960 the surgical marks on that okay 1282 00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,559 pretty extensive 1283 00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,160 absolutely 1284 00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:06,079 okay uh well kenneth is there anything 1285 00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:07,680 else you want to follow up with uh 1286 00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:09,119 before we go 1287 00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:11,839 nothing i can think of but i appreciate 1288 00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:14,480 having the opportunity to talk to other 1289 00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:17,119 contactees okay that's where my research 1290 00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:18,880 is coming from okay 1291 00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:21,839 so anybody that wishes to speak with me 1292 00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:23,280 please do 1293 00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:25,359 and i have a lot of explanation for 1294 00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:27,119 those that don't understand the full 1295 00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:28,640 experience 1296 00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:29,760 okay 1297 00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:31,760 well thanks a lot you have a good you 1298 00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:33,520 have a good evening and the rest of the 1299 00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:35,119 week and uh 1300 00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:36,880 thanks again for coming on i appreciate 1301 00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:37,520 it 1302 00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:45,030 so if you have an unexplained encounter 1303 00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:46,960 or setting uh feel free to contact me 1304 00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:48,480 through the families of monsters blog 1305 00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:50,640 site i want to again thank uh kenneth 1306 00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,880 hopkins for joining me this evening 1307 00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:54,720 and thank to each one of you for 1308 00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:56,720 watching and chatting uh if you have a 1309 00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:58,880 super chat midi superchat donations 1310 00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:01,280 truly 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email at lawn stripper fans 1326 00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,200 monsters dot com 1327 00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:39,280 now on friday night we will conduct 1328 00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:42,400 another round table discussion 1329 00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:45,200 uh this time we'll discuss skinwalkers 1330 00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:47,359 and native american lore 1331 00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:49,839 my guest will be uh ryan paul tremblay 1332 00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:51,839 william nighthawk and shane michael 1333 00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:52,799 chris 1334 00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,480 should be a very interesting show i've 1335 00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:56,640 had a lot of people asking about 1336 00:56:00,069 --> 00:55:58,079 skinwalkers 1337 00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:00,079 and uh here's your chance to come on and 1338 00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:02,720 ask questions and um 1339 00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:04,720 yeah join us this friday night at nine 1340 00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:06,640 o'clock p.m eastern 1341 00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:10,079 six o'clock p.m pacific so until next 1342 00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:11,920 the next show until i see you next 1343 00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:13,920 friday night stay healthy and have a